Alex Fitch of Panel Borders Interview
Usually the man asking the questions, Alex Fitch runs the UK’s only weekly show about the world of comics, Panel Borders. If you aren’t aware of the show, head over to the site and check out the archives and subscribe to the podcast feed. Alex kindly agreed to share his insights into the comics world with me. Image thanks to Craig Grobler.
How would you like to be introduced?
“Mr Spielberg, your afternoon interview is here…”
What was your first exposure to comics?
I can’t remember the very first comic I was bought. I did read a few copies of humour comics like Whizzer and Chips and The Beano but they never really struck me as something I wanted to collect. The first comic I did collect right from the first issue was the relaunched Eagle in 1982 – a few weeks before my 7th birthday – and I really enjoyed the mix of horror, SF and action strips in the comic, particularly the weird fumetti (not that I knew that term then) Doomlord story. I watched a lot of cartoons when I was a kid and so also collected the licenced comics based on Transformers, Zoids and Thundercats. I picked up the odd issue of 2000AD in newsagents with my pocket money from time to time, but was put off by the horrible newsprint it was printed on, however when ‘prog’ 500 came out with a glossy cover I started collecting it and only had to put up with newsprint for another 19 issues before they improved the paper stock. The two strips I really enjoyed in the comic were Bad Company and Nemesis the Warlock but the story that has kept me buying it to the present day is Judge Dredd, which while sometimes not necessarily the best strip in the magazine, is always entertaining even when the comic is going through fallow periods.
It’s nice digging out these old British comics as they were delivered by a paperboy and so while the back cover and occassionally the front are spoiled by my parents’ address written in biro, it means I have a record of everywhere I’ve lived since I was young.
It’s nice digging out these old British comics as they were delivered by a paperboy and so while the back cover and occassionally the front are spoiled by my parents’ address written in biro, it means I have a record of everywhere I’ve lived since I was young. That said, my parents cancelled my 2000AD reservation when I went to film school in New York in 1999 without me knowing, so having waited ten years for the final Nemesis book, I missed it until the reprint book came out! A story from 2000AD was also my first graphic novel, or trade paperback reprint if you want to quibble about the definition of the phrase. I’d been taken to Harrods for the first time as a special treat for my 9th birthday and was told to choose a birthday present. I found my way to the book deptartment and picked up the Judge Dredd: Apocalypse War reprint book by Titan. Unfortunately this coincided with a fire alarm going off and various shutters coming down between departments, so I found the whole experience a bit traumatic, but I guess it still led to a love of the medium as I went on to buy or get given as presents every graphic album and graphic novel Titan printed in the late 1980s.
I was familar with American comics through the Marvel cartoons on TV and the British reprints of American comics, particularly Spiderman. It was also quite common to find genuine American comics in British newsagents back then, albeit with no pattern to what they might have one month to the next. I picked up quite a few of those, including my first ‘adult’ comic, Saga of the Swamp Thing #29, which ironically was the first to go out without a ‘comics code authority’ stamp on the front due to the extreme content inside – goodness know what that did to my 9 year old mind!
What is your background?
I studied Fine Art and History of Art at Goldsmiths College and then 16mm film production at film school in New York. Personal trauma in my family led to me leaving the latter course a couple of weeks before the end of the second semester and while I started doing an MA in Media Studies at the Art School in New York I’d been planning to move on to, it proved too difficult to continue with long distance after a few terms of being given the wrong info and doing the courses in the wrong order – I’d like to finish it one day or move onto a PHd as there’s at least one book on film I intend to write. After film school, I found myself working in video / DVD rental shops for five years and in order to continue doing something creative, designed and wrote in house magazines and websites for a couple of those shops including the one I managed in South West London. Unfortunately the bottom fell out of the industry, so just as I was getting bored with working in the field, there were no jobs left there anyway.
How did you come to host the uk’s only weekly show about comics?
My flatmate was doing a degree in Music Technology and as part of his course did a work placement at Resonance 104.4 FM, the Arts Council radio station in London. He moved up through the ranks as an engineer to a show producer, becoming the co-host of a fortnightly ‘agony aunt’ / advice show called Midnight Sex Talk. He enjoyed the film reviews I’d been doing for the local video shop and so asked me onto the programme a few times to talk about various cinema releases. The station manager in turn liked how I came across on that show and mentioned at the beginning of 2006 that he was launching a new weekly film show – I’m ready for my close-up – and asked if I’d like to present it from time to time. I did so monthly from February to July that year and then weekly until the end of 2007. During that time he mentioned that Resonance was happy to expand the film show’s remit to include all visual media, so I suggested comics, obviously, and did interviews with Kev Sutherland in Autumn 2006 and with Matt Smith (2000AD), Pat Mills, Alan Moore, Paul Gravett and Charles Brownstein (CBLDF) in Winter / Spring 2007. I seem to remember meeting Kev, Pat and Paul for the first time at the previous year’s Comica and I got the interview with Alan by going up to him at a signing after he’d done a talk on stage at the University of London and just asking him if he’d be up for it!
The interview with Alan opened a lot of metaphorical doors as when I then went to the Bristol comics expo in May 2007 with my co-host Duncan Nott, we asked various people for an interview — David Hine, Frazer Irving, John McCrea, Glenn Fabry, Steve Yeowell, Simon Furman, Geoff Senior – and many of them had downloaded my chat with Alan and enjoyed it. However the amount of interviews we came back from the expo with meant that I’d have had to give over the film show entirely to comics based interviews for the next three months, which I thought was breaking the format a bit too much, so I suggested I might do a seperate comics show as well…
Panel Borders started off as a 15 min show – which combined with IRFMCU, made a total of ¾ hour a week of broadcast radio I was producing – and then that autumn I was asked to rename it Strip! (which I disagreed with and kept the name of the podcast as Panel Borders) and make it an hour in length, doubling my weekly output! As I’d just started a new fulltime job, this would have killed me, so I got permission from the ICA to fill the second hald of each hour of Strip! with a half hour recording of talks from Comica, as long as I didn’t podcast that material. In Autumn 2008, Strip! / Panel Borders settled at its current length of half an hour, and I also do occassional one hour ‘Clear Spots’ and episodes of I’m ready for my close-up when I fancy it.
Tell us about your work with Electric Sheep Magazine.
Virginie, the editor of Electric Sheep, approached Resonance in early Summer 2007 as she’d heard I’m ready for my close-up and wondered if the show needed any other contributors. This didn’t happen as often as you might think, hence my presenting nearly every episode for a year and a half! Virginie had been doing Electric Sheep as an online magazine for a few months and recorded some interviews for transcription via dictaphone and wondered if we could broadcast a recent one she’d done with Alejandro Jodorowski. We became friends and our meeting conincided with the Curzon cinema deciding not to go ahead with a cinema podcast that I’d done a couple of pilots for them. Frustrated about this I decided to keep going with the podcast anyway with Virginie joining me and comedienne Jessica Fostekew as co-presenters, renaming it the quartlerly ‘Art house cinema podcast’ and eventually the monthly ‘Electric Sheep magazine podcast’.
In August 2007, Virginie created a print version of Electric Sheep, a bimonthly A5 stapled magazine that was distributed for free in Art House cinemas before getting funding from Wallflower Press in Summer 2008 to turn it into a larger perfect bound magazine that was sold in book, art and cinema shops. I moved from being an (anime) reviewer to an assistant editor of the magazine and with the Wallflower version, Virginie and the designer Emerald wanted to include illustrations as well as stills from movies, so having become friends with many members of the UK small press scene by this point, I sourced 80% of the new illustrations for the magazine, with the likes of Tom Humberstone, Oli Smith, Sean Azzopardi, Mark Stafford, Lee O’Connor, Emma Price, Daniel Locke, Julia Scheele and James Stringer illustrating reviews and articles.
I don’t know who first suggested we do film reviews in comic strip format, it think it just came from a general discussion I had with Virginie as she’s a fan of comics too (and indeed interviewed Jamie Delano, Marjane Satrapi and Charles Burns on my behalf for Strip! / Panel Borders), or it may have been Mark Stafford’s idea as he’d been looking for a way to combine his interest in both media, but the first comic strip film review we ran was actually by Dan Lester as I was chatting to him one time and he mentioned that he did Asian film reviews as comics (which was a white lie, as his first – Big Bang Love for Trespass magazine — was still on his to do list!), so he became our first reviewer in comics format. In subsequent issues I commissioned comic strip reviews by Daniel Locke, Douglas Noble and Hannah Berry. Regarding the latter, we were honoured and proud to print her first new comic strip since the publication of her terrific graphic novel Britten and Brülightly. Stafford and Lester are our most prolific comic strip reviewers with three each under their belts, but since the print magazine folded we now do a monthly comic strip review online and I’ve commissioned new work by Chris Doherty, Julia Scheele, Philip Spence, Karen Rubins and Adam Cadwell (and also print articles by Julia’s We are words + pictures collaborator Matthew Sheret).
I’m a big fan of the UK small press and it’s been great to have them create new work for us; I hope the print magazine and website have given each of our contributors additional exposure. Electric Sheep will be returning to print in the Winter with our first annual to be published by Strange Attractor press and Tom Humberstone is illustrating the first comic book strip I’ve written (on modern zombie movies)!
How do you see the crossover between film and comics?
Inevitable! Certainly Hollywood’s obsession with superhero movies at the moment can’t last forever as every blockbuster fad, whether it’s SF or buddy movies, only dominates the box office for so long, but when I was a kid, the Superman movies were showing at the cinema and I remember reading then how artists like Mobius influenced films such as Alien and Dune.
I think it’s a great shame that some of the best comic adaptations of recent years aren’t noticed as such – for example Road to Perdition and A History of Violence – but with directors hiring comic book creators to design and storyboard movies it’s about time that artists who produce ‘widescreen’ visuals on the page are getting work in Hollywood. Geof Darrow and Steve Skroce working on The Matrix was a great early example for this generation’s cinema while the plot of the film with Neo as messianic superman was obviously indebted to comics as well. It’s dissappointing that people like Brendan McCarthy haven’t been utilised properly by the film industry yet — Highlander, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Lost In Space display little of his surrealistic anarchic humour, though I haven’t seen Coneheads, yet…
What are your thoughts on devices such as the iPad for distributing and reading comics?
If I owned an iPad, I’d certainly download comics to it as it seems the best digitial device so far for displaying the medium. I’ve read a few web comics over the last few years but I don’t particularly enjoy the activity of reading comics on a screen or the variety of interfaces to get from one panel to another. Having seen a few comics on the iPad, it seems a lot closer to the experience of reading a print comic.
I suspect the raising of the price of monthly American print comics to $3.99 may be the final nail in the coffin of dwindling sales. The idea of downloading a monthly comic for say $0.99 – although Marvel’s $5.99 pricing of an upcoming Iron Man annual seems insane – is a great idea that would put comics back into the realm of pocket money prices and more of an impulse buy, but it’s not going to attract younger readers due to the price of the iPad as a machine and I doubt few parents would trust kids not to lose, damage or be robbed of such an expensive device.
I think it’s potentially a great medium for comics, but it’ll take a cheaper colour device – the much lauded flexible electronic paper may be a cheap mass market product in 5 years time – to make iPads or their equivilent the ideal replacement for print. Also, like a lot of people, I love books and would happily spend all my disposable income on graphic novels. To quote Neil Gaiman, I’ve not yet seen anything “as good as being a book as a book is”, and as nice as the iPad is, it’s not even as big as a monthly American comic in terms of page dimensions, let alone a British weekly. Having an iPad would encourage me to consume more web comics if they release a legal web comic aggregator and indulge in more impulse buys of the digitial equivilent of ‘floppies’ – I read and enjoyed The Middlemen for the first time on my iPhone – but the machine itself still seems too much of a luxury toy until they release a model I can do professional sound editing on as well…
Whose work excites you at the moment?
Darryl Cunningham kindly swapped a copy of his book for mine (World Cinema Directory: American Independent, Intellect Books www.intellectbooks.co.uk) and so I’m really enjoying Psychiatric Tales at the moment.
I thought Dave Lander really deserved his prize in the Manga Jiman competition for Last Drink and would love to see a graphic novel collection of all his work so far.
I’m really glad to see Tom Humberstone creating new work! He’s done an amzing job editing two volumes of Solipsistic Pop so far and hope it gets recognised outside of the blogosphere as an indispensible collection of UK creators.
Sightings Of Wallace Sendek by Sean Azzopardi and Douglas Noble has come to a head scratching end, but it’s a brilliant comic and one that stretches Sean immensely, showing his incredible range as an artist. It’s just a shame it wasn’t twice as long, but then the wait for a conclusion would have been impossible to stand!
Julia Scheele’s new comic Everyone is talking about the weather is excellent and I think more creators could benefit from making newspaper comics – it was after all the best thing that DC published in the last year… (Am coveting the big Wednesday Comics hardback)
Speaking of the mainstream, I’m sad to see the end in sight for Ex Machina which I’m a big fan of but look forward to whatever original new series Brian K Vaughn does next. I’m a fan of Greg Pak and Fred Van Lente’s Marvel work so a guilty pleasure has been buying all the various Hulk and Hercules titles, which are gradually becoming the only monthly comics I buy.
Who have been your favourite interviewees?
It’s been brilliant to interview some of my heroes. My first Alan Moore interview was a great honour and proved what a kind interviewee he is – Alan happily chatted for over an hour an a half –using my handful of questions for going off on intriguing tangeants while Melinda brought him cups of tea! Eddie Campbell was a pleasure to talk to and the first time doing an international phone call felt like some kind of time travel, as I was talking him at night in London and he was on his veranda in Australia in the morning with all the sounds of local wildlife in the distance…
Jill Thompson, David Lloyd, Pat Mills and many more all proved to be really nice people and a joy to talk to. Hopefully one day I’ll have the kudos to get more than ten minutes with Neil Gaiman or Phillip Pullman, but in the meantime I’m doing all right with the guests I’m getting!
Outside of comics it’s been amazing to talk to actors like Malcolm McDowell, Bruce Campbell and Susannah York and favourite directors like Stuart Gordon, Dario Argento and Joe Dante…
What are you working on at the moment?
Well the theory this summer was to catch up on my sleep, but haven’t had much luck yet! I’m just about to start recording some interviews for a special on Latin American comics and am looking forward to interviewing Splice / Cube director Vincenzo Natali… I’d better start writing that zombie comic for Tom Humberstone to illustrate this week as well!
Is there anything you’d like to plug?
If you’re based in London, please come along to one of our Electric Sheep screenings at the Prince Charles cinema and elsewhere! Last month we showed For a few dollars more with an introduction by Westerns in comic format expert (and writer of The Prisoner), Ian Rakoff and over the next couple of months we’re showing Foxy Brown and Hero… www.electricsheepmagazine.co.uk/events
Thanks, Alex!

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